vuplus-community

Shiro

BH-C
Vu+ has discontinued all cooperation and support with the BlackHole Team.
The domain vuplus-community.net will soon cease to exist and the board has been moved to www.blackhole-community.com.

We will no longer be able to offer full support for Vu+ products, but only limited help by continuing to make images with the Openbh series, unless something changes in the image that requires an update from Vu+ and this becomes no longer possible.

For this reason and also due to the fact that we are not able to ensure future support for any new Vu+ products, we strongly recommend not purchasing new Vu+ products.
 

Didi

Vu+ User
Don't even now the producers see that this means the end of the Vu+ brand ? ?
The success of Vu+ is entirely due to the Vu+ Community team that gave it extraordinary support, in my opinion, BH is the best image ever created for satellite receivers.
 

gerolamo

Vu+ User
That BH is the best image in the world is a purely subjective factor so much so that I, who was an absolute estimator of it, have some years ago, turned to the OBH (of the same black hole team). Instead, the contribution that the Black hole team has given to the success of the vu+ decoders is an objective factor, a complete, enviable and until recently exclusive support for the vu+ decoders was not found and is still not found for any else decoder, and for me it was the added value that made me prefer them...
The fact that the Korean parent company has decided to discontinue their support to the team will only accompany a slow but inexorable decline of these decoders ... too bad ...
 
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Overix

Vu+ Newbie
Im choosen to buy VU+ high end receiver models only because this receiver has BH. I dont want moved to OBH or something else. Im try OBH firmware and some others but after BH this FWs looks like amateur work, BH looks like FW for premium product. Looks like for me VU+ Ultimo 4k is last satellite receiver from this company. Maybe after some years and in 8k generation receivers something change. BH team many thanks for great work and for BH firmware. BH this is a best FW what im seen. Im agree with people above without BH VU+ receivers just piece of trash and this is the decision from VU+ managers cause them great financial loss. Its was very stupid decision, killing best support community for satellite receivers firmware.

Maybe in future BH creators can transfer this firmware on other high end receivers from other brands. Or develop OBH and make this FW looks like BH now. I hope in that!
 
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AlexWilMac

Moderator
This is your opinion, of course.
Mine is that I was born and I've loved BH for a while but already OBH 0.6 was much more customizable and full of options and comfortable features BH simply dreamed of and still does.
So, I switched to OBH already at its immature 0.6 version. Then it came 1.0 and its developments, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 5.0 and now 5.1 and you still wait for a development to have OBH like the messy structure and no functions as BH?
It won't never happen, fortunately.
You can't do nothing by BH, not even browsing your devices' folders, not to mention to decide how many rows you want to see in channel list or many other things.
How long have you tried OBH for the everyday use? Some hours? One day, two? It is an operative system and you can't imagine to be able to judge and understand and, above all, to discover every single features and options of an O.S. in few hours.
I wrote already in 2018 a little review and OBH has also went on in its improvements since that article!

https://blackhole-community.com/board/threads/why-i-prefer-obh-now-just-my-personal-view.36983/

But you are free to remain in chain with BH instead of tasting the freedom and the completeness of OBH, of course.
Only, don't ask BH coders to work for an image which is based on the dead code of vuplus: because this another real, big problem with BH! OBH is free also from the vuplus code chains, BH isn't.
 

Overix

Vu+ Newbie
AlexWilMac if BH from vuplus absolutely dead also some trouble with code i think this fact all understand. But we can request coders make OBH near like BH. For example add some features from BH. You ask what we miss in OBH. i can say some. its good youtube player, good buttons set on remote(in OBH is weird), alot of video customise options, skins and boot menu. Streaming options in OBH 5.0 streaming from receiver not work properly. BH very good FW with perfect interface design, of course its not not ideal but much better then in OBH. So not need "reinvent the wheel" just make OBH same as BH and all be fine, step by step add some features and UI design like in BH.
 

AlexWilMac

Moderator
AlexWilMac if BH from vuplus absolutely dead also some trouble with code i think this fact all understand. But we can request coders make OBH near like BH. For example add some features from BH. You ask what we miss in OBH. i can say some. its good youtube player,

Yes, youtube is really a function you can't help having... Personally I use PCs for PC's stuff.
And I'm curious to know what this plugin has that does not work in OBH: you obviously did not specify, as you did not specified any of your supposed issues.

good buttons set on remote(in OBH is weird),

Oh... this is fantastic? Do you know you can't customise anything on BH: The plugin QuickButtonsetup was able just to use the coloured keys, but this causes you can't have the original functions for those keys.
In OBH, on the contrary, you can customise the 95% of keys!!! But surely you don't know that because you must've used it 5 minutes or so (you did not answer to my question and this says a lot about your deep knowledge of OBH).
Not only that: you can customise in a specific way some section, above all the REC list section, where you can assign to coloured key and to other keys a lot of functions, something totally impossible in BH!!!


alot of video customise options,
I would really like to know which ones! Be specific.

skins
?!?!? OBH has thr Matrix skins and surely they are a lot more and more up to date compared to the BH skins!

and boot menu.
What is boot menu, please? Boot menu is the one from OMB (Openmultiboot) plugin.

Streaming options in OBH 5.0 streaming from receiver not work properly.
HGeneric, generic, generic: you obviously don't specify your supposed issues with OBH.

BH very good FW with perfect interface design, of course its not not ideal but much better then in OBH. So not need "reinvent the wheel" just make OBH same as BH and all be fine, step by step add some features and UI design like in BH.

Please!!! OBH made as BH is the most ridiculous thing the could do! BH is ridiculous in its menus, in its functions, in all its chains.

There is NO function and no possibility you can have in BH that you can't have in OBH, while the opposite is impossible: BH can't do dozens of things OBH can.

But, please: keep use the XVIII century BH: we won't convince you of the opposite.

Regards
 

p.rodrigues

Vu+ User
If there is something that works perfectly in OBH is streaming.... much simpler than BH!

What I liked to have at OBH was the network interface similar to BH... In BH the information is complete.
 

gerolamo

Vu+ User
We went slightly off topic which I remember was the termination of support by Vu at the forum and its consequences.
Having said that, I also insert myself into the purely subjective discourse of preference for this or that image (needless to say that I am for the OBH), not forgetting, however, that from an objective point of view OBH is the future, BH is the remote past
 

paperino61

Vu+ User
Hi to all. i've returned on site after few time and I found this bad surprise.......
This means that all discussion, help and so on with other users are no longer available?
 

AlexWilMac

Moderator
Why? The fact is practical: apart from the users (like me) who abandoned BH many years ago in favour of the much more comfy OBH, many others have switched to OBH in the recent times and OBH has now its own forum kept by our same coders and admins.
BH won't be developed any longer, probably (along with what was posted by our coders) but the forum is still here.
Only, with BH users everyday less in number, will be probably less likely to get answers.
 

paperino61

Vu+ User
Why? The fact is practical: apart from the users (like me) who abandoned BH many years ago in favour of the much more comfy OBH, many others have switched to OBH in the recent times and OBH has now its own forum kept by our same coders and admins.
BH won't be developed any longer, probably (along with what was posted by our coders) but the forum is still here.
Only, with BH users everyday less in number, will be probably less likely to get answers.

Hi AlexWilMac, tks for answer..... I have been using OBH for a long time too; what I wanted to ask is: all old discussions and threads are no longer available?
when You say "OBH has now its own forum kept".....are You talking about is this site: https://board.openbh.net/ ?

p.s.
I apologize for my english....
 

AlexWilMac

Moderator
Old threads are already available: as you see, you are posting in the new forum
blackhole-community.com/
not in the previous vuplus-community.com/
and the forum name itself has finally become "Blackhole community". Better late than never, though.

And yes, the OBH new forum is the one at the URL you posted.
This is also because OBH now support other boxes, too.
 

vuckpand

Vu+ Newbie
I have been using BH image since it appeared on my Vu plus solo2 receiver. I was very satisfied with this image. I have not tried OpenBH images yet. I will stick to the last BH image 3.1.0.1 from 2021. Thanks to all those who developed and improved images BH over time. With respect.
 

OnePlus1968

Vu+ Newbie
Uso l'immagine BH da quando è apparsa sul mio ricevitore Vu plus solo2. Sono rimasto molto soddisfatto di questa immagine. Non ho ancora provato le immagini OpenBH. Mi atterrò all'ultima immagine BH 3.1.0.1 del 2021. Grazie a tutti coloro che hanno sviluppato e migliorato le immagini BH nel tempo. Con rispetto.
Ciao, mi mandi al link BH 3.1.0.1 del 2021, grazie.
 

gerolamo

Vu+ User
But noooo.
BH is the old velocipede with the pedals on the front wheel
OBH is the new bicycle with carbon frame, electronic gearbox, Bosch motor unit and 800A battery
Then you decide ...
 

fabriziopitto

Vu+ Newbie
it does not seem correct to speak so badly of BH, the image is not developed + ok, but it has also given us a lot of satisfaction, and still today "for those who do not have too many pretensions" .... a stable image remains that as sharpness and colors I have yet to find.
 

AlexWilMac

Moderator
This not about speaking badly of BH but, following your reasoning, it's like we should accept that the first Fiat 500 from the '50 is still a technological miracle even nowadays and ignore that the world has gone on...
And about sharpness and colours, I think you have never tried OBH after 4.2 because, since 4.3 it became as sharp as BH. Until 4.2 it wasn't. But even here, the world goes on, oppositely of BH.
 
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