another thing maybe you can help me with, the last time this happened I had to reflash the stb with a new image with a usb in the socket in the front of the stb. But then that deletes everything in the stb and I have to put all the settings back in again, which takes me ages but there are some settings that I cant put in and I have to pay a shop to do it. Is there a way to reflash the image in the stb that wont delete all my settings. I am running a old image BH 1.6.2 as we couldnt get the stb to accept other images. We tried 6 or 7 different images but this was the only image that worked. I have sent the stb back to the dealer a couple of times for him to look at it but he says there is nothing wrong with it. I just initialised the hdd because the hdd wasnt showing in the mount points and the stb crashed. It seems that what ever I do lately it crashes. Any help or advice would be most helpfull. Thanks