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well,my problem is that i cant see anything in any satelite,lnb or tuner..I'm not sure how anyone can help, as I still don't quite understand your satellite set up, or your problem.
I can't even understand your previous post:
"well,i have done something else..i have put the device that settles the lnb with the satelite(sorry,dont know how it is called) directly to the cable that goes to the reciever..I have a clear screen view in the tv that way..even it is hotbird,astra etc..So something must be wrong with the reciever"
Can you please post some technical information, and better describe your problem.
How many satellite dishes, LNB's, do you have connected to your VU+ receiver?
Are you using a Diseqc switch, which connects multiple LNB's?
What exactly is happening, when you boot up your receiver, are you able to view a channel, for 2-3 minutes, and then it goes off, or something else?