Shiro
BH-C
What issue ?
Here the tuner sensitivity of Solo2 is better than other Vu+ boxes.
No issue.
Review Vu+ Solo2 By Black Hole
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What issue ?
Here the tuner sensitivity of Solo2 is better than other Vu+ boxes.
No issue.
Matrix10
Administrator
Totally not true.
Solo 2 compared with
most of E2 receviers have better or the same receive signal strength.
Signals greater than +-32% can already be received.
For the comparisons, signals on 80 cm satellite dish in EU
on the Astra and Hot range up to 99%.
The reserve is more than 50%.
Solo 2 compared with
most of E2 receviers have better or the same receive signal strength.
Signals greater than +-32% can already be received.
For the comparisons, signals on 80 cm satellite dish in EU
on the Astra and Hot range up to 99%.
The reserve is more than 50%.
Guys, I think we don't understand each other. When we talk about tuner sensitivity we are talking about the signals which are on the edge of reception.
We are talking about the signals from weak satellites for example Nilesat 7W or Arabsart 26E, just to name two of them. There is countless cases of poor signals from satellites which are covering also Europe.
There are signals where one receiver can only show pixelated picture and other the normal TV pictures. And that's the difference we are talking about...
I am not interested in Astra or Hotbird, all the receivers are giving TV picture without a problem.
Humaxboy
I agree with Humaxboy although so far i can see very little difference between the signal strengh on my Solo2 compared to the Tuner that is in the Uno, Take into account as well that test should be done by members with no vested interest in Vu or Blackhole as this is the only way members will get a subjective comparison on this matter. I myself have no dealings with Vu or Blackhole so can give an unbiased opinion on this.
Shiro
BH-C
Don't be RIDICOULUS !! here the opinions are true.
Matrix10
Administrator
I know what you're talking abt
because I measure similar device (NOT SAT but its same) already +25 years.
I just denied your not accurate and not true information
about bad tuner in VU Solo2
Well it's not DX receiver for reception of very weak satellites,
it was none of Enigma2 receivers.
My comparison with other E2 receivers (about 7 I have)
it proved
And what you write here is not true.
Tell me which E2 receiver has a better tuner ?????
because I measure similar device (NOT SAT but its same) already +25 years.
I just denied your not accurate and not true information
about bad tuner in VU Solo2
Well it's not DX receiver for reception of very weak satellites,
it was none of Enigma2 receivers.
My comparison with other E2 receivers (about 7 I have)
it proved
And what you write here is not true.
Tell me which E2 receiver has a better tuner ?????
Matrix10
Administrator
MGT
Vu+ Newbie
If you have a Plasma TV you may have issues with Remote Controller on Solo2 Responding to commands very slowly and sometimes commands been ignored completely due to "Plasma interference" .......
The work around is simple,if you have a energy saving intelligent sensor mode on Plasma Tv switch it on,it will dim picture
and will minimize the "Plasma interference" enabling the solo2 RC to work like it should.......
I have also tested solo2 on my lcd tv with no problems......
So watch out guys think twice about buying if you plan to use on plasma tv....
The work around is simple,if you have a energy saving intelligent sensor mode on Plasma Tv switch it on,it will dim picture
and will minimize the "Plasma interference" enabling the solo2 RC to work like it should.......I have also tested solo2 on my lcd tv with no problems......
So watch out guys think twice about buying if you plan to use on plasma tv....
Ev0
Admin
I have no issue's with my Solo2 and it is connected to Panasonic Plasma tv.If you have a Plasma TV you may have issues with Remote Controller on Solo2 Responding to commands very slowly and sometimes commands been ignored completely due to "Plasma interference" .......
The work around is simple,if you have a energy saving intelligent sensor mode on Plasma Tv switch it on,it will dim picture
I have also tested solo2 on my lcd tv with no problems......
So watch out guys think twice about buying if you plan to use on plasma tv....
Matrix10
Administrator
To get back to issue of very weak signals.
Reception of weak signals almost does not depend on the receiver behind
especially if they are in a class of receivers, of couple of hundred euro.
You should know if that is your hobby.
Reception of weak signals depends primarily
on the size and quality of the antenna
on the quality LNB
and quality cables.
The receiver is on the last place.
Why.
a better relationship between the signal and noise SNR
can only be almost exclusively achieved with the first mentioned
Antenna>>LNB>>Cables
Tuner in all of that plays a very small role
especially now that all these commercial tuners have similar characteristics.
( we not talk about professional receivers )
We should not forget the importance of filters
and method of filtering.What is more important than the tuner.
Actuall input for antenna signal is not our receiver but LNB Ghz frequencies
This signal go to the LNB from our satellite dish and not direct to antenna tuner.
This signal is converted to a lower frequency in LNB,and then goes into the receiver.
The quality of the signal is no longer possible to improve in the receiver or tuner.
Of course it is possible to get worse if you have very bad tuner .
But all modern tuners have been made so far mainly similar
and there can hardly be much improvement in relation to the signals at the border
of noise,
something is possible to achieve with filtering
but there is little difference between these receivers.
So forget ...
Which in practice means
if you have no reception on one receiver that cost
a couple of hundred euros you will not have on any for couple of hundred euros .
If you talk about the last generation of commercial enigma2 receivers.
Because their total structure is largely the same.
Ev0
Admin
Ev0
Admin
I thank you for mentioning it, as it might help other members out if they come across this problem.
All I am saying, is that it is very strange this problem is happening now, but not on any of the previous models, even though they have used the same remote for a long time now and also the same remote control coding.
Maybe it is a certain make or model of Plasma tv that is having issue's ?
abid hussain
Vu+ Newbie
I have Vu+ uno Ultimo and got solo2 as well i want to introduced my equipment which is used in testing im from Lahore Pakistan i have 8 feet fiber dish with inverto black ultra lnb we are on the edge of hotbird 13 east and only get half of the transponders
my vu+ ultimo surprising scanned 1700 channels and services and my vu+ uno scanned 1638 channels and services and solo2 scanned only 1519 channels and services using blackhole 179 on all vu+ models on same time with same equipment i here can confirm there is no improvement of tuner in solo2 which is disappointment after spending lot of money so i will still prefer ultimo uno over solo2
please note that fpga upgrade was done on uno and ultimo
and as far as reply of tuner sensitivity is concerned it can not be improved plz note that dm800 pro m tuner was winner in test which scanned 1750 channels and services
so vu+ team learn from chines they got better tuner even at far less price
plz note clone was only used for reference i dont sell or promote clones so dont ban me im great fan of vu+ but they need to improve tuner in boxes
last but not least heard vu+ uno dual tuner is better of all waiting for its delivery and will let u know how better is that
my vu+ ultimo surprising scanned 1700 channels and services and my vu+ uno scanned 1638 channels and services and solo2 scanned only 1519 channels and services using blackhole 179 on all vu+ models on same time with same equipment i here can confirm there is no improvement of tuner in solo2 which is disappointment after spending lot of money so i will still prefer ultimo uno over solo2
please note that fpga upgrade was done on uno and ultimo
and as far as reply of tuner sensitivity is concerned it can not be improved plz note that dm800 pro m tuner was winner in test which scanned 1750 channels and services
so vu+ team learn from chines they got better tuner even at far less price
plz note clone was only used for reference i dont sell or promote clones so dont ban me im great fan of vu+ but they need to improve tuner in boxes
last but not least heard vu+ uno dual tuner is better of all waiting for its delivery and will let u know how better is that
@abid hussain - that is what i wanted to hear !!! Same equipment (LNB, dish, cable) on 3 different receivers. It would be nice to see some examples (read pictures) of that differences (scanned transponders on one receiver which are not scanned on other). But If VU is going to publish an fpga upgrade on Solo2 things can changed drastically, so this comparison should be taken with caution at this moment. We shouldn't forget that Solo2 is only 14 days officially on market...
For vu+ uno dual tuner please keep us informed...
Humaxboy
Shiro
BH-C
i have been informed that there was a tuning problem with specific freq. (12032MHz).
who wants can test the latest official image that should include a fix.
http://code.vuplus.com/download/images/vusolo2/test/20130103/
who wants can test the latest official image that should include a fix.
http://code.vuplus.com/download/images/vusolo2/test/20130103/
Matrix10
Administrator
It's all nice.
But if I do the same receiver scan
with ultimo and uno on the weak satellite
within twenty minutes I have a difference of more than 100 channels.
If you really want to test.
Take a very weak signal and compare in the same time
I've heard that some have/had problems at 12032MHz
frequency, but this was not the case with my solo2 ??
Shiro
BH-C
I think you should learn to be more trust in Vu+ that have better hardware and let them time to work to fine tune drivers and fpga.
abid hussain
Vu+ Newbie
i trust in vu+ and a great fan and lover its products all vu+ products are matchless in price and hardware even if we compare to dm dm is not even in the race but u know i had lot of expectations from solo2 but i guess it will get mature with passage of time with new images
one strange problem was with all vu+ model they not tuned sky italia tp 11785 h which was scanned by the other receiver
my brother owns a vu+ in uk and he is using i on hotbird sky uk and 19 east and is way happy with the performance of vu+ uno software wise and tuner are working great